When Apple’s co-founder and former CEO Steve Jobs passed away in 2011, all eyes were set on how the tech giant would move forward sans Jobs. Under the leadership of Tim Cook, the COO-turned-CEO, and Jony Ive, the chief design officer, Apple saw many shifts. In his latest book, After Steve: How Apple Became a Trillion-Dollar Company and Lost Its Soul, author Tripp Mickle, a New York Times reporter covering Apple, spoke with over 200 former and current Apple employees, its suppliers, competitors, government officials and more to find how the company has fared after Jobs’ death.